{"id":4440,"date":"2024-07-01T10:23:23","date_gmt":"2024-07-01T08:23:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/leprado.org\/?page_id=4440"},"modified":"2024-10-11T15:46:05","modified_gmt":"2024-10-11T13:46:05","slug":"un-dialogue-exigeant-avec-le-parti-communiste-francais","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/leprado.org\/en\/un-dialogue-exigeant-avec-le-parti-communiste-francais\/","title":{"rendered":"A demanding dialogue with the French Communist Party"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"4440\" class=\"elementor elementor-4440\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-587cf8b8 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"587cf8b8\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5f4d4f9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"5f4d4f9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">ANCEL 2024 EXHIBITION<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7883e384 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7883e384\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"has-text-align-center\" style=\"color: #476fb5\">A demanding dialogue<br \/>with the French Communist Party<\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fc048c e-grid e-con-full e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fc048c\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-82af5ce elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"82af5ce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;line-height: 20.5333px\">Alfred Ancel and the Communists, by Pierre Cr\u00e9pel.<br \/><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;line-height: 20.5333px\">The view of the Revue du Projet (French Communist Party, Left Front, European Left)<\/span><i>,\u00a0<\/i><i><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/un-dialogue-exigeant-avec-le-parti-communiste-francais\/#crepel\">click here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/i>\u00a0<\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;line-height: 20.5333px\">The worker priests<\/span><\/span><i>,\u00a0<\/i><i><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/un-dialogue-exigeant-avec-le-parti-communiste-francais\/#ouvriers\">click here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/i>\u00a0<\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;line-height: 20.5333px\">Some of Alfred ancel's works, among the 56 listed by the Lyon Municipal Library<\/span><\/span><i>,\u00a0<\/i><i><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/un-dialogue-exigeant-avec-le-parti-communiste-francais\/#ouvrages\">click here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/i>\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2c761fc elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"2c761fc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"510\" height=\"364\" src=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2024\/07\/Alfred-Ancel-Expo-panneau-10-Dialogue-communiste-1.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-4883\" alt=\"Alfred Ancel - Dialogue exigeant avec le parti communiste fran\u00e7ais\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2024\/07\/Alfred-Ancel-Expo-panneau-10-Dialogue-communiste-1.jpg 510w, https:\/\/leprado.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2024\/07\/Alfred-Ancel-Expo-panneau-10-Dialogue-communiste-1-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leprado.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2024\/07\/Alfred-Ancel-Expo-panneau-10-Dialogue-communiste-1-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 34.9rem) calc(100vw - 2rem), (max-width: 53rem) calc(8 * (100vw \/ 12)), (min-width: 53rem) calc(6 * (100vw \/ 12)), 100vw\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e49e41d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"e49e41d\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c5e1fb8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-menu-anchor\" data-id=\"c5e1fb8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"menu-anchor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-menu-anchor\" id=\"crepel\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4acf32e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4acf32e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"color: #476fb5;font-size: 24px\"><strong>Alfred Ancel and the Communists, Pierre Cr\u00e9pel<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\"><span style=\"font-family: var( --e-global-typography-text-font-family ), Sans-serif;font-weight: var( --e-global-typography-text-font-weight )\">Alfred Ancel (1898-1984), born in Lyon, a member of the textile bourgeoisie, volunteered in 1915, ordained a priest in 1923, Superior General of Prado (1942-1971), auxiliary bishop of Lyon (1947-1973), bishop at work but not a working-class priest (1954-1959), an active and influential figure at the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965), wrote extensively. He was one of the key figures in the dialogue between Communists and Christians in the twentieth century. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\"><span style=\"font-family: var( --e-global-typography-text-font-family ), Sans-serif;font-weight: var( --e-global-typography-text-font-weight )\">The Association of the Priests of Prado was founded in 1860 by Father Antoine Chevrier (1826-1879), a priest of the diocese of Lyon, with a view to evangelising \"the poor, the ignorant and the sinners\", because God became poor in Jesus Christ, born in a stable, Jesus Christ remained poor until his death on the cross, and it is a question of truly living this out. Although Prado originated in Lyon, its priests today officiate in many countries around the world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">In 1946, Alfred Ancel was 48 years old. Christians and Communists had been united in the Resistance; the PCF had great prestige; it took part in the government and introduced much-appreciated measures, such as social security and the status of tenant farming. As a result, Christians, including peasants, often wondered whether they could join forces with the Communists, take joint action, or even more. It was at this point that Alfred Ancel published the small brochure Le Communisme et les paysans.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">One of the conclusions, p. 83, reads: \"Consequently, Communists should not be surprised when the Church says:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">It is forbidden for a Christian to be a communist.<\/li>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">It is forbidden for a Christian to belong to the Communist Party.<\/li>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">It is forbidden for a Christian to vote for the Communists.<br \/>So it doesn't do politics; it doesn't deal with economic doctrines. It is religion.\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<div><span style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">As for the possibility of collaborating with the Communists on an ad hoc basis, he admitted to a \"temporary alliance\" in \"a specific case\", but \"we still have to be very careful\". He added, however, that \"we must not form an anti-Communist front\" (p. 88-89). He reminds us that we must love our enemies (p. 7) and also writes: \"If the Communists shake us up and force us to break out of our routine, so much the better\" (p. 87). <\/span><\/div>\n<div>\u00a0<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">Why and how did the man who in the 1970s was regarded as the apostle of Communist-Christian dialogue express himself in this way in the aftermath of the Liberation? Did he then turn 180 degrees? To find out, let's first look at the nature of the criticisms he levelled at the Communists (in France and around the world) in 1946. <\/span><\/div>\n<div>\u00a0<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">\"According to communist doctrine, there is no justice, no possible happiness for the workers as long as the capitalist regime lasts. [Consequently, only one thing matters: capitalism must be overthrown. The rest is irrelevant\" (p. 21). Communists are sincere and selfless, but in their own way, the end justifies the means. They can lie, kill, etc.: \"it depends\" whether this helps to destroy capitalism, \"they don't believe in human conscience either\". Atheistic communism fights religions; \"the success of communism would lead to a terrible persecution against [it]\" (p. 83). The Communists want to nationalise everything, and their temporary allies (especially the small peasants) must know this. <\/span><\/div>\n<div>\u00a0<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">Communists deny the individual and only want to see the collective. Alfred Ancel uses examples from the USSR to support his analysis. With the benefit of hindsight, it is easier to understand this contradictory reality: the PCF reached out to Catholic workers in 1936, it showed openness in the Resistance, it did not interfere with freedoms (even religious freedoms), but it is totally committed to Stalinist doctrine. In other words, Alfred Ancel's objections ring true in part; but only in part, because life is stronger than doctrines and Alfred Ancel remains a prisoner of his origins, of the present, and does not foresee that life is going to make communists, like Christians, evolve!<\/span><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-692cd7f elementor-widget elementor-widget-menu-anchor\" data-id=\"692cd7f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"menu-anchor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-menu-anchor\" id=\"ouvriers\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ff72733 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ff72733\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"color: #476fb5;font-size: 24px\"><strong>The worker priests<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">Life then was first and foremost about the working class and the class struggle. Alfred Ancel did not wait for the aftermath of the war to share the plight of the poor and the workers - that was the very vocation of Prado. But things were coming of age, and within it, the experience of working-class priests and priests at work. The informal movement of working-class priests was born around the time of the Liberation. In 1949, there were only about fifty of them. Their motivations varied, depending on the individual: serving the working class, evangelising and\/or competing with the Communists. After the great strikes of 1947, the workers' conscience hardened in the struggle and several working-class priests became involved in trade union responsibilities. It was at this point that priests discovered the realities of working-class life, with a gradual osmosis on the ground that frightened the hierarchy. Pius XII's ban on working priests from 1 March 1954, followed by the total ban on priests working, even part-time and outside the factory, in 1959, had a profound effect on people's minds. Alfred Ancel, who worked odd jobs with proletarians between 1954 and 1959, and who wrote an account of this in Cinq ans avec les ouvriers (Five years with the workers) in 1963, had the opportunity to reflect not only on his theoretical framework, but also on his practical experience. We can follow this movement and its crises in chapter 10 of Olivier de Berranger's book (p. 159-200). In a nutshell? The class struggle is first and foremost a fact. It is also a struggle for justice (even Pius XII says so); what suffering is acceptable? Without abandoning his evangelical vision, Alfred Ancel, who comes from the bourgeois world, tries to experience things from the inside. Outside the world of the workers, the expression \"class struggle\" is always taken in a \"Marxist\" sense and designates violent action carried out \"in a spirit of hatred\". In the working world, on the other hand, it means the rejection of injustice, liberation and collective advancement. Alfred Ancel wanted to overcome this misunderstanding: learning from others meant knowing their language so as to be able to engage in dialogue. But he is not a communist hiding inside the Church, he remains unfailingly obedient to the hierarchy and defends the Church's Social Doctrine, with its principles of the common good, the universal destination of goods, subsidiarity, participation and solidarity. He understands it in the sense of the Council, of which he was a key player: \"God has destined the earth and all that it contains for the use of all men and peoples, so that the goods of creation should flow equitably into the hands of all, according to the rule of justice, inseparable from charity\" (Pastoral Constitution Gaudium et Spes \"on the Church in the Modern World\" 1965).<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">The best agent of Christian-Communist dialogue in the twentieth century was in fact the influence of the working class in French politics. And to quote Alfred Ancel: \"If Christians shake us up and force us out of our routine, so much the better!<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b855824 elementor-widget elementor-widget-menu-anchor\" data-id=\"b855824\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"menu-anchor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-menu-anchor\" id=\"ouvrages\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6221db6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6221db6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"color: #476fb5;font-size: 24px\"><strong>Some of Alfred Ancel's works, among the 56 listed by the Lyon Municipal Library<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">Le Communisme et les paysans, Providence du Prado, Lyon, 1946.<\/li>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">Cinq ans avec les ouvriers. Testimony and reflections, Le Centurion, 1963.<\/li>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">Dialogue en v\u00e9rit\u00e9. Chr\u00e9tiens et communistes dans la France d'aujourd'hui, \u00c9ditions sociales, 1979.<\/li>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">Un militant ouvrier dialogue avec un \u00e9v\u00eaque (with Joseph Jacquet), \u00c9ditions ouvri\u00e8res and \u00c9ditions sociales, 1982.<\/li>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">A biography: Olivier de Berranger, Alfred Ancel. Un homme pour l'\u00e9vangile, Le Centurion, 1988. Many of these works are in stock in the Prado cellars at 13, rue du P\u00e8re Chevrier in Lyon. Readers can <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/contact\/\">make direct contact<\/a><\/strong> with them.<\/li>\n<li style=\"color: #193185;font-size: 17px\">La Revue du projet, no. 61, November 2016, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/projet.pcf.fr\/93943\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">click here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-61ad36b elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"61ad36b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"320\" height=\"724\" src=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2024\/07\/Alfred-Ancel-Expo-panneau-10-Dialogue-communiste-2.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-4884\" alt=\"Alfred Ancel - Dialogue exigeant avec le parti communiste fran\u00e7ais\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2024\/07\/Alfred-Ancel-Expo-panneau-10-Dialogue-communiste-2.jpg 320w, https:\/\/leprado.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2024\/07\/Alfred-Ancel-Expo-panneau-10-Dialogue-communiste-2-133x300.jpg 133w, https:\/\/leprado.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2024\/07\/Alfred-Ancel-Expo-panneau-10-Dialogue-communiste-2-5x12.jpg 5w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 34.9rem) calc(100vw - 2rem), (max-width: 53rem) calc(8 * (100vw \/ 12)), (min-width: 53rem) calc(6 * (100vw \/ 12)), 100vw\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d4fb0f8 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"d4fb0f8\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2da711c elementor-button-info elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"2da711c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/leprado.org\/alfred-ancel-et-les-jeunes-en-difficultes\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">Alfred Ancel and young people in difficulty<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>EXPO ANCEL 2024 Un dialogue exigeantavec le parti communiste fran\u00e7ais Alfred Ancel et les communistes, by Pierre Cr\u00e9pel.Le regard de la Revue du Projet (Parti Communiste fran\u00e7ais, Front de gauche, Gauche europ\u00e9enne), click here.  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